Difference between revisions of "February 1, 2018 - Wien magnet coil follow-up discussion"

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(Created page with "Danny and I met again w/ Jeff to review his plan for winding coil: Jeff's plan: a) Will build spacer and shim around which coil will be round b) Will run first layer of wire...")
 
 
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Jeff's plan:
 
Jeff's plan:
a) Will build spacer and shim around which coil will be round
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:a) Will build spacer and shim around which coil will be round
b) Will run first layer of wire down shop, mount bobbin to winding fixture to wind inside-out (like cyclotron coil)
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:b) Will run first layer of wire down shop, mount bobbin to winding fixture to wind inside-out (like cyclotron coil)
c) After first layer shim will get knocked out and potted w/ hy-sol, but inside fixture to mitigate bending
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:c) After first layer shim will get knocked out and potted w/ hy-sol, but inside fixture to mitigate bending
d) After second layer both will be potted w/ hy-sol but inside fixture, to mitigate bending
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:d) After second layer both will be potted w/ hy-sol but inside fixture, to mitigate bending
  
 
Joe reported:
 
Joe reported:
a) Coil pair is not that resistive 0.3-0.4 ohm, agrees w/ Jay's TN
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:a) Coil pair is not that resistive 0.3-0.4 ohm, agrees w/ Jay's TN
b) At #13 square wire as-built operating 20A w/ leads will drop <10V and coil will produce <160W
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:b) At #13 square wire as-built operating 20A w/ leads will drop <10V and coil will produce <160W
  
 
We evaluate wire chart and came to conclusion:
 
We evaluate wire chart and came to conclusion:
 
:Plan A - will attempt 12-13 turns of #13 square wire, but if winding square not efficient/effective
 
:Plan A - will attempt 12-13 turns of #13 square wire, but if winding square not efficient/effective
 
:Plan B - will wind 11 turns of #12 round wire (#13 round is 1.48 more resistive than #13 square, too much)
 
:Plan B - will wind 11 turns of #12 round wire (#13 round is 1.48 more resistive than #13 square, too much)

Latest revision as of 14:30, 2 February 2018

Danny and I met again w/ Jeff to review his plan for winding coil:

Jeff's plan:

a) Will build spacer and shim around which coil will be round
b) Will run first layer of wire down shop, mount bobbin to winding fixture to wind inside-out (like cyclotron coil)
c) After first layer shim will get knocked out and potted w/ hy-sol, but inside fixture to mitigate bending
d) After second layer both will be potted w/ hy-sol but inside fixture, to mitigate bending

Joe reported:

a) Coil pair is not that resistive 0.3-0.4 ohm, agrees w/ Jay's TN
b) At #13 square wire as-built operating 20A w/ leads will drop <10V and coil will produce <160W

We evaluate wire chart and came to conclusion:

Plan A - will attempt 12-13 turns of #13 square wire, but if winding square not efficient/effective
Plan B - will wind 11 turns of #12 round wire (#13 round is 1.48 more resistive than #13 square, too much)