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==Eric's update cyrstals==
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== Schedule ==
- I am in contact with the Alpha-Spectra company which was providing BGO crystals for a local project we had in Orsay.
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* Joe reviewed schedule again, beam test window is shorter at UITF, now from Jun 1 - Oct 31, see slide 4 [[media:220127_COMTRA.pptx]]
  This is a US company which provides crystals with a guaranteed 8-9% resolution. At the time we were investigating for
 
  an order they were less expensive than Saint-Gobain and turned-out to be more performant (we performed dedicated
 
  measurements to test this).
 
  
- They should be back to me shortly with information about availability of improved radiation hardness crystals as well
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==ME layout==
  as radiation limits of the crystals they are currently providing.
 
  
- It should be noted that litterature about radiation aging of BGO crystals indicates that after a rapid loss of about 20%
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* Joe proposed moving polarimeter test to non-dispersive "straight" section to avoid any energy dependent position jitter
  of transmission, the performance is kind of stable. Some experiments chose to first irradiate crystals to operate in  that
+
* Shaun showed UITF beam line, identified how we could remove single spool in 4' pass-through, leaving irradiation line intact
  regime.
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* Joe is confirming this with Matt as first priority location
 +
* Riad showed model/pics of ceramic break & radiator we'd like to use, 6mm thick copper, 1" flat surface for beam, approved for 10 MeV/100uA with cooling
 +
* Riad will discuss with Eric if 6mm okay - then we move to fabricate second ceramic break & radiator
  
- we may need tools to control the overall stability of the experimental signal... dedicated cosmic ray calibration run or  
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==DAQ Procurement List - Chris and Riad==
  light illumination... too early stage to provide a direction of answer, but this should be kept in mind.
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* List of components needed to build two portable DAQ systems: [[media:ComptonTransPol_DAQ_PurchaseNeeds_2022Jan.xlsx]]
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* Discussed possibility of running local EPICS, to provide convenient controls to DAC, PS, Helicity Board....Riad will discuss/confirm path forward
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==Polarized Target==
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* Lakshmi will review the overall plan, when ready small group will meet to begin reviewing her questions about function and requirements
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==Simulation==
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* Greg has installed Geant4 and loaded files to run some of the examples
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* Greg would next like to learn to run and interpret output from the model Ben & Eric developed, then can add the radiator we'll use
 +
 
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==Detector update - Eric==
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* I am in contact with the Alpha-Spectra company which was providing BGO crystals for a local project we had in Orsay. This is a US company which provides crystals with a guaranteed 8-9% resolution. At the time we were investigating for an order they were less expensive than Saint-Gobain and turned-out to be more performant (we performed dedicated measurements to test this).
 +
 
 +
* They should be back to me shortly with information about availability of improved radiation hardness crystals as well as radiation limits of the crystals they are currently providing.
 +
 
 +
* It should be noted that litterature about radiation aging of BGO crystals indicates that after a rapid loss of about 20% of transmission, the performance is kind of stable. Some experiments chose to first irradiate crystals to operate in  that  regime.
 +
 
 +
* We may need tools to control the overall stability of the experimental signal... dedicated cosmic ray calibration run or light illumination... too early stage to provide a direction of answer, but this should be kept in mind.

Latest revision as of 12:43, 27 January 2022

Schedule

  • Joe reviewed schedule again, beam test window is shorter at UITF, now from Jun 1 - Oct 31, see slide 4 media:220127_COMTRA.pptx

ME layout

  • Joe proposed moving polarimeter test to non-dispersive "straight" section to avoid any energy dependent position jitter
  • Shaun showed UITF beam line, identified how we could remove single spool in 4' pass-through, leaving irradiation line intact
  • Joe is confirming this with Matt as first priority location
  • Riad showed model/pics of ceramic break & radiator we'd like to use, 6mm thick copper, 1" flat surface for beam, approved for 10 MeV/100uA with cooling
  • Riad will discuss with Eric if 6mm okay - then we move to fabricate second ceramic break & radiator

DAQ Procurement List - Chris and Riad

Polarized Target

  • Lakshmi will review the overall plan, when ready small group will meet to begin reviewing her questions about function and requirements

Simulation

  • Greg has installed Geant4 and loaded files to run some of the examples
  • Greg would next like to learn to run and interpret output from the model Ben & Eric developed, then can add the radiator we'll use

Detector update - Eric

  • I am in contact with the Alpha-Spectra company which was providing BGO crystals for a local project we had in Orsay. This is a US company which provides crystals with a guaranteed 8-9% resolution. At the time we were investigating for an order they were less expensive than Saint-Gobain and turned-out to be more performant (we performed dedicated measurements to test this).
  • They should be back to me shortly with information about availability of improved radiation hardness crystals as well as radiation limits of the crystals they are currently providing.
  • It should be noted that litterature about radiation aging of BGO crystals indicates that after a rapid loss of about 20% of transmission, the performance is kind of stable. Some experiments chose to first irradiate crystals to operate in that regime.
  • We may need tools to control the overall stability of the experimental signal... dedicated cosmic ray calibration run or light illumination... too early stage to provide a direction of answer, but this should be kept in mind.