Difference between revisions of "02/07/2017 Coordination Meeting"
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| + | This is a periodic meeting the Cryogenics Group has with various representatives on site to discuss future plans or issues related to supporting cryogenic loads at the accelerator, Halls, and the Testlab. | ||
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== Agenda and Notes == | == Agenda and Notes == | ||
| − | + | The purpose of this meeting was to discuss the loads on the ESR due to Halls A, B, and C to determine the users plans and identify opportunities to reduce the load on the ESR plant which is operating above its capacity and requiring the support of the CHL/ESR transferline. | |
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'''2. ESR Capacity ''' | '''2. ESR Capacity ''' | ||
| − | Plant capacity envelope (1500W at 4.5K) OR (800W at 4.5K PLUS 1200W at 15K) | + | Plant capacity envelope is (1500W at 4.5K) OR (800W at 4.5K PLUS 1200W at 15K) |
| − | Additional TRANSIENT capacity available from CHL via transferline of up to 20g/s at 4.5K | + | Additional TRANSIENT capacity available from CHL via transferline of up to 20g/s at 4.5K depending on the accelerator loads. |
| − | + | General rules: ESR loses 1 Watt of 4.5K Refrigeration for every 3 watts of 20K refrigeration used and it loses 150 watts of 4.5K refrigeration for every 1g/s of liquefaction used. | |
'''3. ESR2 Upgrade ''' | '''3. ESR2 Upgrade ''' | ||
| − | Cryogenics group has been pushing the installation of the ESR2 4KW at 4.5K SSC plant for more than 15 years. The building was constructed and the cold box placed inside | + | The Cryogenics group has been pushing the installation of the ESR2 4KW at 4.5K SSC plant for more than 15 years. The building was constructed and the cold box placed inside but the real work of designing, installing, and commissioning has slipped several times due to funding problems. This is a multi year effort to complete this work. |
'''4. Current Issues ''' | '''4. Current Issues ''' | ||
| − | At this time the ESR is operating above its capacity. The CHL1 is supplying | + | At this time the ESR is operating above its full capacity. The CHL1 is supplying approximately 10g/s to ESR at this time via the transferline. If the transferline is shutdown the ESR Dewar level falls. Cryo's worry is operating the ESR at full discharge pressure places more wear and tear on the equipment and pushs weak components toward failure reducing reliability. Limited capacity also increases the recovery time to get all the Halls back online following problems. Continuously relying on the CHL/ESR tranferline also links operations risks of both plants together. This meeting was to discuss options and arrive at an agreed plan or an acknowledgement of the increased risks. |
'''5. Plan Forward ''' | '''5. Plan Forward ''' | ||
| − | Hall B has submitted the KPP data to DOE for approval. Approval should come in a few days and then we could park the Torus at 80K. Kashy's apprehension is he reported the Torus is operating differently after the last 80K warmup. He reports the JT is no longer flowing enough to provide liquid to the magnet and | + | Hall B has submitted the KPP data to DOE for approval. Approval should come in a few days and then we could park the Torus at 80K. Kashy's apprehension is he reported the Torus is operating differently after the last 80K warmup. He reports the JT is no longer flowing enough coolant to provide liquid to the magnet on its own and acts like there is a partial ice plug in the line. They are using the cooldown line to supliment flow to maintain liquid level. If this is the case it will require likely a torus warm up at some point to clear the ice. |
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| + | Hall A warm return is routed to ESR. Hall B warm return is routed to CHL. Hall C warm return is routed to CHL. | ||
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| + | Paul Brindza indicated the HMS might be able to park at 80K for the summer. Brindza also indicates that Hall C is having a serious pressure drop issues on the cold return for the SHMS system. The rest of the Hall returns and the HMS are not effected. Possibilities are there is a partial plug in the SHMS return line. | ||
| − | + | Kashy suggested the idea of having the Halls ramp up the lead flows to full and performing a load test to determine the peak load on ESR because the lab is working a physics plan to live near this point in the future. | |
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== Action Items == | == Action Items == | ||
| − | 1. | + | 1. Get support to finish the ESR2 4KW plant design, fabrication, and commissioning. |
2. Kashy will provide lead flow values to Schleeper to improve the load estimates. | 2. Kashy will provide lead flow values to Schleeper to improve the load estimates. | ||
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4. Kashy recommended a test before the end of the run to see where the actual loads are with respect to ESR/CHL capability. This could happen as early as next week. | 4. Kashy recommended a test before the end of the run to see where the actual loads are with respect to ESR/CHL capability. This could happen as early as next week. | ||
| − | 5. Brindza | + | 5. Brindza is requesting help investigating the high SHMS cold return back pressure issue. |
| − | 6. Cryo | + | 6. Cryo is contemplating a request for ESR shutdown and warm up to 300K summer of 18' to perform maintenance if funding supports it. |
Revision as of 10:37, 8 February 2017
Attendance
This is a periodic meeting the Cryogenics Group has with various representatives on site to discuss future plans or issues related to supporting cryogenic loads at the accelerator, Halls, and the Testlab.
Attendance
Creel, Wright, Schleeper, Fair, Kashy, Bridza, Fansler, Gomez, Oren, Butler, Wood
Agenda and Notes
The purpose of this meeting was to discuss the loads on the ESR due to Halls A, B, and C to determine the users plans and identify opportunities to reduce the load on the ESR plant which is operating above its capacity and requiring the support of the CHL/ESR transferline.
1. ESR History
Plant originally built in 1978 for the LBL ESCAR Project. It operated < 900 hours before being shutdown.
Plant was moved to JLAB and installed in 1994 JLAB to support Hall's A, B, and C. The plant has been in nearly continuous operation for 22 years.
2. ESR Capacity
Plant capacity envelope is (1500W at 4.5K) OR (800W at 4.5K PLUS 1200W at 15K)
Additional TRANSIENT capacity available from CHL via transferline of up to 20g/s at 4.5K depending on the accelerator loads.
General rules: ESR loses 1 Watt of 4.5K Refrigeration for every 3 watts of 20K refrigeration used and it loses 150 watts of 4.5K refrigeration for every 1g/s of liquefaction used.
3. ESR2 Upgrade
The Cryogenics group has been pushing the installation of the ESR2 4KW at 4.5K SSC plant for more than 15 years. The building was constructed and the cold box placed inside but the real work of designing, installing, and commissioning has slipped several times due to funding problems. This is a multi year effort to complete this work.
4. Current Issues
At this time the ESR is operating above its full capacity. The CHL1 is supplying approximately 10g/s to ESR at this time via the transferline. If the transferline is shutdown the ESR Dewar level falls. Cryo's worry is operating the ESR at full discharge pressure places more wear and tear on the equipment and pushs weak components toward failure reducing reliability. Limited capacity also increases the recovery time to get all the Halls back online following problems. Continuously relying on the CHL/ESR tranferline also links operations risks of both plants together. This meeting was to discuss options and arrive at an agreed plan or an acknowledgement of the increased risks.
5. Plan Forward
Hall B has submitted the KPP data to DOE for approval. Approval should come in a few days and then we could park the Torus at 80K. Kashy's apprehension is he reported the Torus is operating differently after the last 80K warmup. He reports the JT is no longer flowing enough coolant to provide liquid to the magnet on its own and acts like there is a partial ice plug in the line. They are using the cooldown line to supliment flow to maintain liquid level. If this is the case it will require likely a torus warm up at some point to clear the ice.
Hall A warm return is routed to ESR. Hall B warm return is routed to CHL. Hall C warm return is routed to CHL.
Paul Brindza indicated the HMS might be able to park at 80K for the summer. Brindza also indicates that Hall C is having a serious pressure drop issues on the cold return for the SHMS system. The rest of the Hall returns and the HMS are not effected. Possibilities are there is a partial plug in the SHMS return line.
Kashy suggested the idea of having the Halls ramp up the lead flows to full and performing a load test to determine the peak load on ESR because the lab is working a physics plan to live near this point in the future.
Action Items
1. Get support to finish the ESR2 4KW plant design, fabrication, and commissioning.
2. Kashy will provide lead flow values to Schleeper to improve the load estimates.
3. Cryo will revisit the capacity matrix predictor and bounce it against the wants of the Hall's.
4. Kashy recommended a test before the end of the run to see where the actual loads are with respect to ESR/CHL capability. This could happen as early as next week.
5. Brindza is requesting help investigating the high SHMS cold return back pressure issue.
6. Cryo is contemplating a request for ESR shutdown and warm up to 300K summer of 18' to perform maintenance if funding supports it.
