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| − | EEEMCAL IN DETECTOR PROPOSALS | + | '''EEEMCAL IN DETECTOR PROPOSALS''' |
| − | + | * Detector looks similar in all three proposals | |
| − | + | :* differences in size and number of PWO vs. Glass | |
| − | + | :* there may be differences in attachment - ATHENA and ECCE assume mounting on universal frame; CORE has been assuming mounting to endcap HCAL frame, but recently moved away from it - CORE more sensitive to impact of non-sensitive material regions | |
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| − | + | * '''ATHENA:''' | |
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| − | + | :* z = 195cm | |
| − | + | :* R_in = 11 cm (eta ~ -3.5) = R_min_PWO | |
| + | :* R_max_PWO = 53cm (eta ~2) = R_min_Glass | ||
| + | :* R_max_total = 100 cm (eta ~ 1.4) = R_max_Glass | ||
| + | :* Modules PWO = ~ 2200 (2 x 2 x 20 cm3) | ||
| + | :* Modules Glass = ~ 1400 (4 x 4 x 40 cm3) | ||
| + | ::* Total weight: ~ 2400 kg | ||
| − | + | :* If assume all PWO for this volume: 7600 PWO modules | |
| − | + | ::* Weight ~ 7000 kg | |
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| − | + | * '''ECCE:''' | |
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| − | + | :* z = 190 cm | |
| − | + | :* R_min = 11cm (eta ~3.5) = R_min_PWO | |
| + | :* R_max_PWO = 49cm (eta ~2) = R_min_Glass | ||
| + | :* R_max_total = 57 cm (eta ~1.9) = R_max_Glass | ||
| + | :* Modules PWO = 1680 (2 x 2 x 20 cm3) | ||
| + | :* Modules Glass = 160 (4 x 4 x 40 cm3) | ||
| + | ::* Total weight: ~1500 kg | ||
| − | + | :* If assume all PWO for this volume: 2960 PWO modules | |
| + | ::* Total weight ~ 2000kg | ||
| − | + | * '''CORE''' | |
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| − | + | :* z = 110cm | |
| + | :* R_min=8.5cm | ||
| + | :* R_max=47cm | ||
| + | |||
| + | :* Modules PWO = 1412 (2 x 2 x 20 cm3) | ||
| + | ::* Total weight ~ 1000kg | ||
'''SIMULATIONS''' | '''SIMULATIONS''' | ||
| − | Tolerance material in front of EMCal - ongoing studies | + | * Tolerance material in front of EMCal - ongoing studies |
| − | e/pi studies ongoing | + | * e/pi studies ongoing |
| − | + | :* ECCE produced some simulation data samples that are used for these studies | |
| − | implementations - | + | * implementations - completed |
| − | + | :* barrel SciGlass (Nathaly) | |
| − | + | :* EEEMCAL Fun4All (Carlos) | |
| − | + | :* EEEMCAL DD4HEP (Vladimir/Dmitry) | |
* ATHENA simulation campaign planned for August | * ATHENA simulation campaign planned for August | ||
| − | + | :* Will include hybrid EEEMCal | |
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| + | * ECCE simulation campaign 21 June uses PWO only EEEMcal and sphenix barrel EMCal(?) - does not yet have EEEMcal hybrid or SciGlass barrel | ||
| + | :* hybrid EEEMCal and Sciglass barrel will be in next ECCE simulation campaign | ||
'''DESIGN EEEMCAL''' | '''DESIGN EEEMCAL''' | ||
| − | Initial design prepared | + | * Initial design prepared |
| − | Cooling would be water cooling around circumference plus possible mechanical cooling from the back | + | * Cooling would be water cooling around circumference plus possible mechanical cooling from the back |
| − | + | :* must also take into account cabling from back | |
| − | Beam pipe | + | * Beam pipe characteristics around the detector - diameter etc. |
| − | Main questions: | + | * Main questions: |
| − | + | :* beam pipe | |
| − | + | :* support limitations at universal frame | |
| − | + | :* thickness of outer and inner radius | |
| − | Action items: | + | * Action items: |
::* prepare summary of questions | ::* prepare summary of questions | ||
::* discussion with EIC PM | ::* discussion with EIC PM | ||
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'''PWO+SIPM DETECTOR UPDATE''' | '''PWO+SIPM DETECTOR UPDATE''' | ||
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* Action item: | * Action item: | ||
| − | + | :* prepare list of services needed for discussion with HallD electrical engineer | |
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'''BEAM TESTS 2021''' | '''BEAM TESTS 2021''' | ||
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* If planning to participate please contact: | * If planning to participate please contact: | ||
| − | + | :* For DESY tests: Douglas Hasell | |
| − | + | :* For JLAB tests: Tanja Horn | |
'''NEXT MEETING: MONDAY 26 JULY 2021 AT 8:30AM ET''' | '''NEXT MEETING: MONDAY 26 JULY 2021 AT 8:30AM ET''' | ||
Latest revision as of 07:50, 14 July 2021
PARTICIPANTS: Bruno Jorion, Carlos, Irina, Miroslav, Nathaly, Pete, Renee, Crytur-CZ, Douglas, Hamlet, Hrachya, Julien Bettane, Rosi, Vardan, Vladimir, Tanja, Joerg, Lei, Sasha
EEEMCAL IN DETECTOR PROPOSALS
- Detector looks similar in all three proposals
- differences in size and number of PWO vs. Glass
- there may be differences in attachment - ATHENA and ECCE assume mounting on universal frame; CORE has been assuming mounting to endcap HCAL frame, but recently moved away from it - CORE more sensitive to impact of non-sensitive material regions
- ATHENA:
- z = 195cm
- R_in = 11 cm (eta ~ -3.5) = R_min_PWO
- R_max_PWO = 53cm (eta ~2) = R_min_Glass
- R_max_total = 100 cm (eta ~ 1.4) = R_max_Glass
- Modules PWO = ~ 2200 (2 x 2 x 20 cm3)
- Modules Glass = ~ 1400 (4 x 4 x 40 cm3)
- Total weight: ~ 2400 kg
- If assume all PWO for this volume: 7600 PWO modules
- Weight ~ 7000 kg
- ECCE:
- z = 190 cm
- R_min = 11cm (eta ~3.5) = R_min_PWO
- R_max_PWO = 49cm (eta ~2) = R_min_Glass
- R_max_total = 57 cm (eta ~1.9) = R_max_Glass
- Modules PWO = 1680 (2 x 2 x 20 cm3)
- Modules Glass = 160 (4 x 4 x 40 cm3)
- Total weight: ~1500 kg
- If assume all PWO for this volume: 2960 PWO modules
- Total weight ~ 2000kg
- CORE
- z = 110cm
- R_min=8.5cm
- R_max=47cm
- Modules PWO = 1412 (2 x 2 x 20 cm3)
- Total weight ~ 1000kg
SIMULATIONS
- Tolerance material in front of EMCal - ongoing studies
- e/pi studies ongoing
- ECCE produced some simulation data samples that are used for these studies
- implementations - completed
- barrel SciGlass (Nathaly)
- EEEMCAL Fun4All (Carlos)
- EEEMCAL DD4HEP (Vladimir/Dmitry)
- ATHENA simulation campaign planned for August
- Will include hybrid EEEMCal
- ECCE simulation campaign 21 June uses PWO only EEEMcal and sphenix barrel EMCal(?) - does not yet have EEEMcal hybrid or SciGlass barrel
- hybrid EEEMCal and Sciglass barrel will be in next ECCE simulation campaign
DESIGN EEEMCAL
- Initial design prepared
- Cooling would be water cooling around circumference plus possible mechanical cooling from the back
- must also take into account cabling from back
- Beam pipe characteristics around the detector - diameter etc.
- Main questions:
- beam pipe
- support limitations at universal frame
- thickness of outer and inner radius
- Action items:
- prepare summary of questions
- discussion with EIC PM
PWO+SIPM DETECTOR UPDATE
- Found a way to include 16 SiPM per crystal
- Discussion about services and integration for beam test
- Action item:
- prepare list of services needed for discussion with HallD electrical engineer
BEAM TESTS 2021
- Link to beam tests: https://wiki.jlab.org/cuawiki/index.php/EEEMCal_Beam_Tests
- If planning to participate please contact:
- For DESY tests: Douglas Hasell
- For JLAB tests: Tanja Horn
NEXT MEETING: MONDAY 26 JULY 2021 AT 8:30AM ET