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'''ACTION ITEMS'''
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* Preliminary Proposal
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::* Project description: Dustin will send a writeup on Oxford work - fold in the description
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::* Budget updates: Igor will send info on tungsten (see his email from 1/22/19), Dustin will send numbers for target based on Oxford experience
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::* Science figures: Gabriel will try to optimize figures, e.g. for RCS try a multi-panel figure that illustrates that with CPS can take data in a region where theoretical uncertainty is large. For TCS need to project why CFF is important and why one needs these four components. Dustin will write a paragraph on this.
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::* PEP: aim for 1-2 sentences to address each point in the list, meet during Hall A/C meeting to go over details
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::* Bio sketches: Gabriel will send a helpful script for extracting collaborator info from databases
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* Article
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::* Take David's cleaned up tech document and see what sections to port to the article
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'''Discussion Details'''
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* Discussion prelim proposal/article draft sections
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::* FOM figure contains only polarized target data, includes 2008 Mainz point from Igor, note that HIGS and SOLID are the same bar
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* Budget estimate
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::* Target estimate based on C. Keith's estimate, aims to have largest possible opening (new), recycle existing equipment, but replace aging pumps, separate magnets for longitudinal and transverse configurations
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::* Dustin has a writeup from Oxford on cryogen-free solution, transversely polarized magnet, can rotate sideways and vertically, traditional design with smaller apertures
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::* for tungsten figure used $3.5M here
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::* tungsten inserts updates figure (1/22/19) is $122k
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::* Target numbers - include Dustin's numbers based on Oxford
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::* Tungsten powder - see Igor's email update
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* Science figures: RCS and TCS
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::* RCS
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::::*in general good to show more points do demonstrate that can do more with CPS and gives credence to FOM
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::::* need to optimize to illustrate how much more range and how difficult the measurement is
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::::* Possible improvement: make multi-panel figure, e.g. for low and high t
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::* TCS
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::::* make unique piece jump out more
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::::* in general, why are CFF important and why do we need these four components - goes back to EM and electron scattering from a moving quark
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::::* make connection to: with new CPS technique can measure very small cross sections in this new era and now can do real electron scattering from moving quark
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* PEP
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::* template with principles that regular DOE projects have
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::* scope similar to SBS, DIRC, etc. - projects at JLab
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::* aim to explain in 1-2 sentences for each point what will be done
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::* budget profile - use budget and required time for each piece
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* Discussion Article Draft
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::* David H sent updated version
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::* Use the cleaned up version and see what sections to port into/merge with the section drafts
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::* aim for more discussion at 1 February collaboration meeting
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'''Discussion Material'''
 
'''Discussion Material'''
  
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* (Bogan, C. Keith, ...) [https://wiki.jlab.org/cuawiki/images/5/59/CPS_cost_v2.pdf Budget estimate]
 
* (Bogan, C. Keith, ...) [https://wiki.jlab.org/cuawiki/images/5/59/CPS_cost_v2.pdf Budget estimate]
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::* (Igor) [https://wiki.jlab.org/cuawiki/images/5/51/Tungsten-density-and-cost.pdf Information on Tungsten]
  
 
* (Gabriel) Science Figures
 
* (Gabriel) Science Figures
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::* [https://wiki.jlab.org/cuawiki/images/5/51/Tcs_sketch3.png TCS-type figure] (from Dustin's proposal, see above)
 
::* [https://wiki.jlab.org/cuawiki/images/5/51/Tcs_sketch3.png TCS-type figure] (from Dustin's proposal, see above)
 
::* [https://wiki.jlab.org/cuawiki/images/2/25/Rcs_tcs_babble.pdf text file with the figure caption] for these as well as an analogy between electron scattering and tennis (spin included)
 
::* [https://wiki.jlab.org/cuawiki/images/2/25/Rcs_tcs_babble.pdf text file with the figure caption] for these as well as an analogy between electron scattering and tennis (spin included)
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* (David H) [https://wiki.jlab.org/cuawiki/images/4/4f/CPS_document-rev9.pdf Tech Document - cleaned up version]
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::* see David's 1/22/19 email for the TeX source file
  
 
* Proposal Links:
 
* Proposal Links:
 
::* [https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2019/nsf19537/nsf19537.htm#toc MSRI R1 solicitation]
 
::* [https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2019/nsf19537/nsf19537.htm#toc MSRI R1 solicitation]
 
::* [https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2015/nsf15089/nsf15089.pdf Project Execution Plan (see section 3.4 on page 80ff)]
 
::* [https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2015/nsf15089/nsf15089.pdf Project Execution Plan (see section 3.4 on page 80ff)]

Latest revision as of 10:09, 23 January 2019

ACTION ITEMS

  • Preliminary Proposal
  • Project description: Dustin will send a writeup on Oxford work - fold in the description
  • Budget updates: Igor will send info on tungsten (see his email from 1/22/19), Dustin will send numbers for target based on Oxford experience
  • Science figures: Gabriel will try to optimize figures, e.g. for RCS try a multi-panel figure that illustrates that with CPS can take data in a region where theoretical uncertainty is large. For TCS need to project why CFF is important and why one needs these four components. Dustin will write a paragraph on this.
  • PEP: aim for 1-2 sentences to address each point in the list, meet during Hall A/C meeting to go over details
  • Bio sketches: Gabriel will send a helpful script for extracting collaborator info from databases
  • Article
  • Take David's cleaned up tech document and see what sections to port to the article


Discussion Details

  • Discussion prelim proposal/article draft sections
  • FOM figure contains only polarized target data, includes 2008 Mainz point from Igor, note that HIGS and SOLID are the same bar
  • Budget estimate
  • Target estimate based on C. Keith's estimate, aims to have largest possible opening (new), recycle existing equipment, but replace aging pumps, separate magnets for longitudinal and transverse configurations
  • Dustin has a writeup from Oxford on cryogen-free solution, transversely polarized magnet, can rotate sideways and vertically, traditional design with smaller apertures
  • for tungsten figure used $3.5M here
  • tungsten inserts updates figure (1/22/19) is $122k
  • Target numbers - include Dustin's numbers based on Oxford
  • Tungsten powder - see Igor's email update
  • Science figures: RCS and TCS
  • RCS
  • in general good to show more points do demonstrate that can do more with CPS and gives credence to FOM
  • need to optimize to illustrate how much more range and how difficult the measurement is
  • Possible improvement: make multi-panel figure, e.g. for low and high t
  • TCS
  • make unique piece jump out more
  • in general, why are CFF important and why do we need these four components - goes back to EM and electron scattering from a moving quark
  • make connection to: with new CPS technique can measure very small cross sections in this new era and now can do real electron scattering from moving quark
  • PEP
  • template with principles that regular DOE projects have
  • scope similar to SBS, DIRC, etc. - projects at JLab
  • aim to explain in 1-2 sentences for each point what will be done
  • budget profile - use budget and required time for each piece


  • Discussion Article Draft
  • David H sent updated version
  • Use the cleaned up version and see what sections to port into/merge with the section drafts
  • aim for more discussion at 1 February collaboration meeting


Discussion Material

  • (Gabriel) Science Figures
  • see David's 1/22/19 email for the TeX source file
  • Proposal Links:
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